North Dakota Game and Fish Deer Survey

This armchair biologist agrees with your math.   

Since ND doesnt require you to register your harvest I am guessing they got these numbers from the surveys they send out.  They probably have an estimated number of people who had tags but did not hunt at all.  They probably threw those people out of the "hunter success" calculation. 

The G&F might add "X" percentage to the equation because not everyone reply's to the survey?

Hmmm, interesting.  I never even thought to check the math.  However, according to the numbers, you are right.  That is a 57.3% success rate.  I really hope they don't have some politician doing their math for them.  Yet, it seems they must be.

-Justin

Alot of people probably bought extra doe tags but never attempted to fill them. We had 4 extra  doe tags between my dad and me and we never attempted fill them. We shot a muley and a whitetail apiece.

I was successful, I did not fill all my tags though, just like briningtherain pointed out, but I would guess if that is what they are going by the % would be much higher. I did not fill 2 tags, my wife left 1 open.

More importantly than success rate ,   What is the numbers for car collisions, coyote predation on fawns,  wounded deer mortality (from bad shots by idiots) and natural mortality on bucks from rut etc etc....??   How many (bucks in particular)  die from causes other than Rifles?      Thats usueful information. 

Who cares what the "Success Rate"  is.........Quality ,  not Quantity !  Success is in the eye of the beholder.   Shooting a small 3x3 to fill your buck tag on the last day is hardly a  "successful"  season in my book.   

Whats the  all so important  success rate on just buck tags?    How old was the average buck harvested?   hmm ,   probably 2 years old or less.  Thats how messed up our sex ratio is.    Most of the deer harvested in the survey were Does or young bucks  to dumb to react when the 1/2 ton slammed on the breaks and opened fire. 

Using success rates to gauge the health of a deer herd what-so-ever  means nothing.

PS,   In a flat state like ND with not alot of cover,  it doesn't take a very bright boy to fill a deer tag.......point being,  if succes rates aren't  70% or more  in specific units,  deer numbers are too low.   

We lost or have yet to lose over 50% of the deer in my country.  There will be no deer season in NW  ND  this year.

Donald Trump

Pigsticker
They are not giving out very accurate statements again Weird.
We all know the game and fish is full of smoke ans mirrors.
Don't feed deer to hunt but ok to feed during winter.
Ok to take walleye eggs from lake Sak but unable to restock them.
Deer numbers down after 08/09 winter but already set budget based of tags so we will wait a year to reduce tags.
Always a joke to me but I guess thats why I chose not to work for them.

WSWAT Said:
Pigsticker
They are not giving out very accurate statements again Weird.
We all know the game and fish is full of smoke ans mirrors.
Don't feed deer to hunt but ok to feed during winter.
Ok to take walleye eggs from lake Sak but unable to restock them.
Deer numbers down after 08/09 winter but already set budget based of tags so we will wait a year to reduce tags.
Always a joke to me but I guess thats why I chose not to work for them.

  

WSWAT Said:
Pigsticker
They are not giving out very accurate statements again Weird.
We all know the game and fish is full of smoke ans mirrors.
Don't feed deer to hunt but ok to feed during winter.
Ok to take walleye eggs from lake Sak but unable to restock them.
Deer numbers down after 08/09 winter but already set budget based of tags so we will wait a year to reduce tags.
Always a joke to me but I guess thats why I chose not to work for them.

I'm glad i am building preference points for a mule deer gun tag with these numbers that may or may not be accurate.

Headhunter Said:
More importantly than success rate ,   What is the numbers for car collisions, coyote predation on fawns,  wounded deer mortality (from bad shots by idiots) and natural mortality on bucks from rut etc etc....??   How many (bucks in particular)  die from causes other than Rifles?      Thats usueful information. 

Who cares what the "Success Rate"  is.........Quality ,  not Quantity !  Success is in the eye of the beholder.   Shooting a small 3x3 to fill your buck tag on the last day is hardly a  "successful"  season in my book.   

Whats the  all so important  success rate on just buck tags?    How old was the average buck harvested?   hmm ,   probably 2 years old or less.  Thats how messed up our sex ratio is.    Most of the deer harvested in the survey were Does or young bucks  to dumb to react when the 1/2 ton slammed on the breaks and opened fire. 

Using success rates to gauge the health of a deer herd what-so-ever  means nothing.

PS,   In a flat state like ND with not alot of cover,  it doesn't take a very bright boy to fill a deer tag.......point being,  if succes rates aren't  70% or more  in specific units,  deer numbers are too low.   

We lost or have yet to lose over 50% of the deer in my country.  There will be no deer season in NW  ND  this year.

Donald Trump

No season really?  Where did you get your info at?  I have a group of 15 from the Fargo area that wanted to hunt out west this year.

Donald just what do you want???More deer or more bigger deer???It might be pretty flat  out in the NW ND,but not the whole state is like that!So if i understand your post you would like older bucks to shoot?and more of them???you would rather shoot a 6x6 older smarter deer than a dumbass 3x3 2 year old???OK now tell me why?What do you get out of it???So what somebody  wants to shoot a dumbass 3x3 to fill their tag at the end of  the season???Whats with the comment ???about it doesnet take a very bright boy to shoot a deer???Could you expalin that remark??If that not very bright boy shoots a big buck does that make him smarter???I have been working up in"MY COUNTRY"  and i been seeing  deer all over the place!!!Plus up in YOUR Country is not  very good area to support many deer,no trees or river bottoms and not much heavy cover,so when we have bad winters its going to have a effect! on the deer.But if i understand your beef  with the G&F is having to many tags issue for that area??One more thing What is a "SUCCESSFUL HUNT IN YOUR BOOK?????Bye

so how hard is it to post all of your land and watch a buck for 4 to 5 years and then shoot him out the window of your pick up?

How about some of you so critical of the department send the G&F an email or make a phone call asking how the "math" is figured before dragging them out on FBO.

Typical of this place. Complaining  just to to hear yourself complaining

and WSWAT, judging by some of your pictures it looks like the G&F is doing an ok job of managing an overall healthy population of fish and game.

good call aggiefan!!!!!